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		<title>Comment on Section 44 in Chatham High Street. by Dave</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 22:42:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of items just surfaced which seem to indicate that the police are still making up the law as they go along and being heavy-handed in the process. Obviously not learnt their lesson yet.
http://tinyurl.com/yfp5cho
http://tinyurl.com/yjvcqj9
I have to say, reading these makes my blood boil. Just who do some of these jobs-worthy people think they are? The item about not being allowed to take pictures of your own child, even though the scene was otherwise deserted,  is nothing short of ludicrous.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of items just surfaced which seem to indicate that the police are still making up the law as they go along and being heavy-handed in the process. Obviously not learnt their lesson yet.<br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yfp5cho" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yfp5cho</a><br />
<a href="http://tinyurl.com/yjvcqj9" rel="nofollow">http://tinyurl.com/yjvcqj9</a><br />
I have to say, reading these makes my blood boil. Just who do some of these jobs-worthy people think they are? The item about not being allowed to take pictures of your own child, even though the scene was otherwise deserted,  is nothing short of ludicrous.</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by Gary Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 07 Mar 2010 12:28:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Tony, It is the same one and I&#039;ve signed it. you&#039;ve got an impressive 1,200+ signatures now.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Tony, It is the same one and I&#8217;ve signed it. you&#8217;ve got an impressive 1,200+ signatures now.</p>
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		<title>Comment on Section 44 in Chatham High Street. by Dave</title>
		<link>http://monaxle.com/2009/07/08/section-44-in-chatham-high-street/comment-page-3/#comment-3324</link>
		<dc:creator>Dave</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Mar 2010 20:12:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Thought you might like to see this one:
http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch
&quot;The Love Police do an amazing job demonstrating how to get out of being searched under section 44 of the Terrorism Act. Stopped by police outside the Tower of London, they avoid being searched, having to give their personal details and having their camera film looked at simply by stating the law, remaining calm and polite. (Although keeping the video camera rolling probably helped too.) The police sent an Inspector (rather senior), two Sergeants, five officers and four police cars. But in the end they walk away.&quot;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Thought you might like to see this one:<br />
<a href="http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch" rel="nofollow">http://www.youtube.com/user/cveitch</a><br />
&#8220;The Love Police do an amazing job demonstrating how to get out of being searched under section 44 of the Terrorism Act. Stopped by police outside the Tower of London, they avoid being searched, having to give their personal details and having their camera film looked at simply by stating the law, remaining calm and polite. (Although keeping the video camera rolling probably helped too.) The police sent an Inspector (rather senior), two Sergeants, five officers and four police cars. But in the end they walk away.&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by Tony Petts</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tony Petts</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Mar 2010 13:32:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gary W, We are running a similar petition campaign about SETrains currently running at over 900 hits. Aimed at London - Ramsgate/Ashford/Maidstone but here is the link if you want to join. Do not believe it is the same one. We have a depth of feeling for Season ticket holders that we should be better compensated for this service under made up figures. http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SETrainservices/</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gary W, We are running a similar petition campaign about SETrains currently running at over 900 hits. Aimed at London &#8211; Ramsgate/Ashford/Maidstone but here is the link if you want to join. Do not believe it is the same one. We have a depth of feeling for Season ticket holders that we should be better compensated for this service under made up figures. <a href="http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SETrainservices/" rel="nofollow">http://petitions.number10.gov.uk/SETrainservices/</a></p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by SunnyD</title>
		<link>http://monaxle.com/2009/11/21/south-eastern-railways-ruined-our-family-day-out/comment-page-1/#comment-3322</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Feb 2010 08:56:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>he&#039;s the guy who axed a lot of railway lines....? (post war)

am i right?

if so, i certainly wouldn&#039;t condone taking up arms against him. he probably thought he was doing the right thing (either that or he was doing his master&#039;s bidding, i&#039;m sure)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>he&#8217;s the guy who axed a lot of railway lines&#8230;.? (post war)</p>
<p>am i right?</p>
<p>if so, i certainly wouldn&#8217;t condone taking up arms against him. he probably thought he was doing the right thing (either that or he was doing his master&#8217;s bidding, i&#8217;m sure)</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by Gary Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 23:37:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Most of it I guess you can lay at Dr. Beechings door.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Most of it I guess you can lay at Dr. Beechings door.</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by SunnyD</title>
		<link>http://monaxle.com/2009/11/21/south-eastern-railways-ruined-our-family-day-out/comment-page-1/#comment-3320</link>
		<dc:creator>SunnyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 19:16:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First world country - but with a pre-victorian rail network. if only the germans had done a better job with their luftwaffe bombs...

the railways were stretched to breaking point during the war effort and years of under-investment have lead us to where we are now. given the circumstances, i think southeastern and co do a pretty good job with the tools available

may all your troubles be little ones</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First world country &#8211; but with a pre-victorian rail network. if only the germans had done a better job with their luftwaffe bombs&#8230;</p>
<p>the railways were stretched to breaking point during the war effort and years of under-investment have lead us to where we are now. given the circumstances, i think southeastern and co do a pretty good job with the tools available</p>
<p>may all your troubles be little ones</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by Gary Williams</title>
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		<dc:creator>Gary Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 15:35:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>oh and SunnyD, yes, I&#039;d be very happy if you posted positive stories on the forum. that&#039;s half of the reason for having it but if you don&#039;t believe me and don&#039;t want to take that risk.. *shrugs*</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>oh and SunnyD, yes, I&#8217;d be very happy if you posted positive stories on the forum. that&#8217;s half of the reason for having it but if you don&#8217;t believe me and don&#8217;t want to take that risk.. *shrugs*</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by Gary Williams</title>
		<link>http://monaxle.com/2009/11/21/south-eastern-railways-ruined-our-family-day-out/comment-page-1/#comment-3318</link>
		<dc:creator>Gary Williams</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 13:30:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My journeys this week have been fairly good. No heating on the medway valley line and no seats out of Waterloo east a few times but you&#039;ll notice that I don&#039;t complain about that. I fully accept that travelling on the train can be something of a lottery but shouldn&#039;t we expect better? shouldn&#039;t we ask for better? Shouldn&#039;t we DEMAND better? We are, after all, a first world country so is it too much to ask for a fair service?

I say yes to that but the majority of people (as seen from some of the sharp comments I&#039;ve received) seem happy with a mediocre service and I&#039;m absolutely fine with that. If mediocre is all people want and expect then I think we are setting our sights too low but I&#039;m not going to preach and fight a fight that no one is interested in hence my comment to leave the forum up until 1st June. If it stays as quiet as it currently is I&#039;ll remove it and be a good little commuter. I might even move back to London and buy a bike.

It&#039;s a shame that we are turning into a laissez faire society where mediocre is good enough but that is where we are.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>My journeys this week have been fairly good. No heating on the medway valley line and no seats out of Waterloo east a few times but you&#8217;ll notice that I don&#8217;t complain about that. I fully accept that travelling on the train can be something of a lottery but shouldn&#8217;t we expect better? shouldn&#8217;t we ask for better? Shouldn&#8217;t we DEMAND better? We are, after all, a first world country so is it too much to ask for a fair service?</p>
<p>I say yes to that but the majority of people (as seen from some of the sharp comments I&#8217;ve received) seem happy with a mediocre service and I&#8217;m absolutely fine with that. If mediocre is all people want and expect then I think we are setting our sights too low but I&#8217;m not going to preach and fight a fight that no one is interested in hence my comment to leave the forum up until 1st June. If it stays as quiet as it currently is I&#8217;ll remove it and be a good little commuter. I might even move back to London and buy a bike.</p>
<p>It&#8217;s a shame that we are turning into a laissez faire society where mediocre is good enough but that is where we are.</p>
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		<title>Comment on South Eastern Railways Ruined Our Family Day Out by SunnyD</title>
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		<dc:creator>SunnyD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Feb 2010 09:32:54 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I wouldn&#039;t say that I have had &quot;positive&quot; experiences of Southeastern - other than the fact that their trains get me from Maidstone to Sevenoaks quicker (and cleaner) than my car. But, as a former (reformed) season ticket holder, I&#039;ve learnt to play them at their own game. They post the daily performance info on their webite, so when i see a delay over half an hour I  try and claim compensation with my weekly ticket. 

Their service tends to do what it says on the tin, but with many years of commuting behind me, I understand that when you buy a ticket you enter into a contract - the dreaded National Rail Conditions of Carriage (it says as much on the back of the ticket). The NRCoC state that the ticket remains the property of the train company (which negates any complaints about &quot;defacing&quot; tickets). More importantly, the NRCoC set out the legal position between a passenger and train company. It&#039;s not easy reading, but interesting and eye-opening. For example, they reserve the right to replace trains with buses (they sell you a ticket to get you from here to there - not necessarily a seat - nor even a train!!!) and if they fail to get you to &quot;there&quot; they can safely say that they aren&#039;t responsible for events which are beyond their control.

In a similar vein, insurance companies tend not to pay out if you&#039;re injured (fatally or otherwise) in an act of terrorism. They see it as an act of war (they also exempt &quot;acts of god&quot; - i suppose that&#039;d mean an avalanche). When it&#039;s those very things we&#039;re trying to insure ourselves against. A bit of a joke really.

I suppose I realise that purchasing a train ticket fools the passenger intop having some peace of mind that they&#039;ll be safely ferried from here to there - but, as you well know Gary, the truth is that every day is a lottery - as much as we&#039;d (and I believe the train companies would probably back us up on this) like to hope otherwise.

it&#039;s a house of cards. always has been and maybe always will be. i admire the fact that you set the forum up, but i suspect that it was borne of utter frustration and i would hate to see that frustration ferment as a result of a lack of interest. i agree it&#039;s a good idea to draw a line under it if noone posts - but honestly, will you really be happy if people post positive stories? it&#039;s for that reason that &#039;ve refrained from joining. 

i apologise for saying things like &quot;i suspect he has no wife...&quot; etc. but i tend to speak my mind and call it as i see it. i type my stuff and press &quot;send&quot; without censoring/reviewing what i&#039;ve said (apart from a bit of a proof read for spelling errors). but if i could wave a magic wand, i&#039;d turn you into a buddhist commuter type person, like i aspire to be, because canute tried to fight the tide and it didn&#039;t work. at least when i&#039;m breathing amidst the angst of passengers, i feel some modicum of peace. 

sometimes all we have is the breaths we take (for granted) - a highly underrated bodily function (as are heart beats)

sorry if this sounds hippy-ish, and i wish you all the best.

how were your recent journeys?

D</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say that I have had &#8220;positive&#8221; experiences of Southeastern &#8211; other than the fact that their trains get me from Maidstone to Sevenoaks quicker (and cleaner) than my car. But, as a former (reformed) season ticket holder, I&#8217;ve learnt to play them at their own game. They post the daily performance info on their webite, so when i see a delay over half an hour I  try and claim compensation with my weekly ticket. </p>
<p>Their service tends to do what it says on the tin, but with many years of commuting behind me, I understand that when you buy a ticket you enter into a contract &#8211; the dreaded National Rail Conditions of Carriage (it says as much on the back of the ticket). The NRCoC state that the ticket remains the property of the train company (which negates any complaints about &#8220;defacing&#8221; tickets). More importantly, the NRCoC set out the legal position between a passenger and train company. It&#8217;s not easy reading, but interesting and eye-opening. For example, they reserve the right to replace trains with buses (they sell you a ticket to get you from here to there &#8211; not necessarily a seat &#8211; nor even a train!!!) and if they fail to get you to &#8220;there&#8221; they can safely say that they aren&#8217;t responsible for events which are beyond their control.</p>
<p>In a similar vein, insurance companies tend not to pay out if you&#8217;re injured (fatally or otherwise) in an act of terrorism. They see it as an act of war (they also exempt &#8220;acts of god&#8221; &#8211; i suppose that&#8217;d mean an avalanche). When it&#8217;s those very things we&#8217;re trying to insure ourselves against. A bit of a joke really.</p>
<p>I suppose I realise that purchasing a train ticket fools the passenger intop having some peace of mind that they&#8217;ll be safely ferried from here to there &#8211; but, as you well know Gary, the truth is that every day is a lottery &#8211; as much as we&#8217;d (and I believe the train companies would probably back us up on this) like to hope otherwise.</p>
<p>it&#8217;s a house of cards. always has been and maybe always will be. i admire the fact that you set the forum up, but i suspect that it was borne of utter frustration and i would hate to see that frustration ferment as a result of a lack of interest. i agree it&#8217;s a good idea to draw a line under it if noone posts &#8211; but honestly, will you really be happy if people post positive stories? it&#8217;s for that reason that &#8216;ve refrained from joining. </p>
<p>i apologise for saying things like &#8220;i suspect he has no wife&#8230;&#8221; etc. but i tend to speak my mind and call it as i see it. i type my stuff and press &#8220;send&#8221; without censoring/reviewing what i&#8217;ve said (apart from a bit of a proof read for spelling errors). but if i could wave a magic wand, i&#8217;d turn you into a buddhist commuter type person, like i aspire to be, because canute tried to fight the tide and it didn&#8217;t work. at least when i&#8217;m breathing amidst the angst of passengers, i feel some modicum of peace. </p>
<p>sometimes all we have is the breaths we take (for granted) &#8211; a highly underrated bodily function (as are heart beats)</p>
<p>sorry if this sounds hippy-ish, and i wish you all the best.</p>
<p>how were your recent journeys?</p>
<p>D</p>
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